Talk:List of poisonous animals

Confusing

Says "not to be confused with List of Venomous Animals."

My dictionary defines "poison" as "having the properties or effects of poison : venemous".

"Venomous" is defined as "full of venom, as 'poisonous'".

Sounds like the same thing, to me. So, why two separate lists? What's the difference?

Wouldn't it make more sense to just have one list, and have both terms direct to it?

No it wouldn't - Poisonous, in this context, relates to the inability of humans and other species to consume the animal/insect in question. Venomous has to do with the ability of an animal/reptile to kill by injecting venom (which is indeed a poison) into their victim without having to be consumed to provide the ill effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.19.168 (talk) 18:49, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"venomous animals can inject their toxins into their prey or victim, whilst poisonous animals can only infect their victims when contact is made between the pair." emphasis added

Um, OK. But I don't know of any animal that can "inject their toxins" without contact between them and the prey/victim. So the distinction as explained here seems kind of fuzzy.

Unlss someone cares to describe -- and cite -- some "venomous" animals that somehow poison their "victims" remotely, without any contact? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.95.43.253 (talk) 00:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect

Many of these animals are actually venomous (having a means to inject venom) rather than (or perhaps in addition to) being poisonous (harmful if ingested or touched.

Two of the three fish listed (those in the lionfish/stonefish clade) possess venomous spines that hypodermically inject venom, rather than mere skin toxicity. Many other fish have venomous spines to varying degrees, as well as being poisonous to consume (two different lists, although with some overlapping membership). The pufferfish listed here are actual poisonous fish (dangerous to consume, but not capable of injecting venom). The same is true of the cephalopods - the blue-ringed octopus has an extremely venomous bite - and the cone shells, all of which are actively venomous, and many of which use their venom to hunt (exactly the same situation as a rattlesnake, which is perhaps the archetypical venomous animal).192.54.222.19 (talk) 22:08, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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